{"id":2622,"date":"2013-12-05T19:43:58","date_gmt":"2013-12-05T19:43:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/?p=2622"},"modified":"2017-01-24T20:21:17","modified_gmt":"2017-01-24T20:21:17","slug":"editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c9diteurs, auteurs et, pour une fois, illustrateurs  <br>   <i>Publishers, designers and, for once, illustrators<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>L&#8217;un des th\u00e8mes fr\u00e9quemment d\u00e9battus ces derniers temps quand des auteurs, des \u00e9diteurs et parfois des illustrateurs de jeux se rencontrent est celui du r\u00f4le exact de l&#8217;illustrateur, et de la mani\u00e8re dont il doit \u00eatre reconnu (et r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9). Il y a l\u00e0 des enjeux de principe, des enjeux d&#8217;amour propre et des enjeux financiers<\/p>\n<p>Il est aujourd\u2019hui admis \u2013 m\u00eame si cela n\u2019a pas toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 facile \u00e0 imposer \u00e0 certains \u00e9diteurs \u2013 que l\u2019auteur d\u2019un jeu doit, tout comme celui d\u2019un livre et pour les m\u00eames raisons, avoir son nom en gros caract\u00e8res sur la boite. Les auteurs y trouvent leur compte en termes d\u2019amour propre, les \u00e9diteurs n\u2019ont rien \u00e0 y perdre, puisque cela ne leur co\u00fbte rien et fait g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement vendre quelques boites suppl\u00e9mentaires. La question qui se pose ensuite est de savoir s\u2019il doit en \u00eatre de m\u00eame pour le nom de l\u2019illustrateur, comme cela commence \u00e0 \u00eatre le cas, et si ce dernier doit alors \u00eatre \u00e9galement consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme un \u00ab\u00a0co-auteur\u00a0\u00bb du jeu. Bref, un jeu est-il comme une bande dessin\u00e9e, dont le sc\u00e9nariste et l\u2019illustrateur se partagent les droits d\u2019auteur et la responsabilit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2651\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/seasons.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2651\" data-attachment-id=\"2651\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/seasons\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/seasons.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"seasons\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;R\u00e9gis Bonness\u00e9e et Naiade, les deux auteurs de Seasons ?&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/seasons.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2651\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/seasons-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"R\u00e9gis Bonness\u00e9e et Naiade, les deux auteurs de Seasons ?\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/seasons-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/seasons-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/seasons.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2651\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">R\u00e9gis Bonness\u00e9e et Naiade, les deux auteurs de Seasons ?<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Je ne pense pas que ce soit le cas, \u00e0 l\u2019exception sans doute de quelques tr\u00e8s rares jeux comme Dixit, pour lesquels les illustrations sont ins\u00e9parables de la m\u00e9canique ludique. Certains de mes jeux ont connu plusieurs \u00e9ditions illustr\u00e9es par des artistes diff\u00e9rents, et il ne viendrait je pense \u00e0 l\u2019id\u00e9e de personne de dire que Diamant et Incan Gold, son \u00e9dition am\u00e9ricaine, ou que les deux \u00e9ditions de l\u2019Or des Dragons, sont des jeux diff\u00e9rents, m\u00eame si la plupart des joueurs, et moi-m\u00eame, peuvent pr\u00e9f\u00e9rer les illustrations de l\u2019une ou l\u2019autre version.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2627\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/diamant\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"481,700\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"diamant\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2627\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant-206x300.jpg\" alt=\"diamant\" width=\"206\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant-206x300.jpg 206w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg 481w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 206px) 100vw, 206px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2628\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/incan-gold\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,367\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"incan gold\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2628\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold-300x220.jpg\" alt=\"incan gold\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold-300x220.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold-408x300.jpg 408w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 l\u2019inverse, quand Fantasy Flight r\u00e9utilise dans plusieurs jeux les m\u00eames illustrations de dragons en plein vol et de chevaliers lourdement arm\u00e9s, il ne vient \u00e0 l\u2019id\u00e9e de personne de pr\u00e9tendre qu&#8217;il s\u2019agit toujours du m\u00eame jeu. De ce point de vue, les jeux de soci\u00e9t\u00e9 ne sont donc absolument pas comparables avec les bandes dessin\u00e9es, que l\u2019on imagine tr\u00e8s mal \u00eatre r\u00e9\u00e9dit\u00e9es avec de nouveaux dessins ou de nouveaux textes.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2632\" style=\"width: 224px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2632\" data-attachment-id=\"2632\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/martian-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"357,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"martian\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;AEG n&amp;#8217;a probablement pas pay\u00e9 bien cher pour les illustrations de Maximum Throwdown, toutes reprises de Smash-Up.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2632\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian1-214x300.jpg\" alt=\"AEG n'a probablement pas pay\u00e9 bien cher pour les illustrations de Maximum Throwdown, toutes reprises de Smash-Up.\" width=\"214\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian1-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian1.jpg 357w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 214px) 100vw, 214px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2632\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">AEG n&#8217;a probablement pas pay\u00e9 bien cher pour les illustrations de Maximum Throwdown, toutes reprises de Smash-Up.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Pourtant, parce que les styles et les th\u00e8mes sont proches, et parce que, pour des raisons que j\u2019ignore, les dessinateurs sont tr\u00e8s souvent aussi joueurs, ce sont souvent des artistes venus de la BD qui illustrent les jeux de soci\u00e9t\u00e9, qui le font dans leur style habituel. Ils n\u2019ont pas vraiment l\u2019impression de faire un travail diff\u00e9rent.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2629\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2629\" data-attachment-id=\"2629\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/rune-age\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"rune age\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Je suis s\u00fbr que j&amp;#8217;ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu ce dragon quelque part&amp;#8230;.&lt;br \/&gt;\nEt de toute fa\u00e7on, il n&amp;#8217;y a pas la place sur la boite pour les 22 illustrateurs.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2629\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Je suis s\u00fbr que j'ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu ce dragon quelque part.... Et de toute fa\u00e7on, il n'y a pas la place sur la boite pour les 22 illustrateurs.\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2629\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Je suis s\u00fbr que j&#8217;ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu ce dragon quelque part&#8230;.<br \/>Et de toute fa\u00e7on, il n&#8217;y a pas la place sur la boite pour les 22 illustrateurs.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Le premier enjeu important est celui de la reconnaissance du travail de l\u2019illustrateur par la mise en avant de son nom. Il faut bien s\u00fbr distinguer entre les jeux. J\u2019adore les dessins de Giulia Ghigini, mais j\u2019aurais \u00e9t\u00e9 un peu choqu\u00e9 si son nom avait \u00e9t\u00e9 trop mis en avant sur la boite de Speed Dating, o\u00f9 sa participation se limite \u00e0 la boite et aux dos des cartes \u2013 aussi r\u00e9ussis soient-ils.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1840\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/sample-page\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"565,960\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Speed Dating box\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1840\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n-176x300.jpg\" alt=\"Speed Dating\" width=\"176\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n-176x300.jpg 176w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n.jpg 565w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 176px) 100vw, 176px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2256\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/10\/12\/petits-jeux-et-themes-legers-light-themes-for-light-games-2\/mascarade_packshot_box\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"670,1264\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Mascarade box\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX-542x1024.jpg\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-2256\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX-159x300.jpg\" alt=\"MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX\" width=\"143\" height=\"270\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX-159x300.jpg 159w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX-542x1024.jpg 542w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 143px) 100vw, 143px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>En revanche, je n\u2019aurais pas du tout \u00e9t\u00e9 choqu\u00e9 que le nom de J\u00e9r\u00e9my Masson, qui a illustr\u00e9 Mascarade, soit un peu plus visible sur la boite de jeu, tout comme celui de Naiade sur celle d\u2019Isla Dorada. Pour autant, faire comme dans la bande dessin\u00e9e en mettant sur le m\u00eame plan, dans les m\u00eames caract\u00e8res, le nom de l\u2019auteur et de l\u2019illustrateur du jeu, comme par exemple sur la boite de Tokaido ou sur celle d&#8217;Augustus &#8211; m\u00eame avec un petit symbole permettant, comme dans certaines bandes dessin\u00e9es, de distinguer les r\u00f4les &#8211; me semble bizarre, sugg\u00e9rant une \u0153uvre r\u00e9alis\u00e9e en commun, ce qui n&#8217;est pas le cas.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2638\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/longhorn1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2638\" data-attachment-id=\"2638\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/longhorn-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/longhorn1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"787,425\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"longhorn\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Icons differenciate the game designer and the illustrator &amp;#8211; but I don&amp;#8217;t like designer icon, which suggests that the game is only mechanisms.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/longhorn1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2638\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/longhorn1-300x162.jpg\" alt=\"Icons differenciate the game designer and the illustrator - but I don't like designer icon, which suggests that the game is only mechanisms.\" width=\"300\" height=\"162\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/longhorn1-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/longhorn1-500x270.jpg 500w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/longhorn1.jpg 787w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2638\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Des ic\u00f4nes distinguent l&#8217;auteur du jeu du dessinateur, mais je n&#8217;aime gu\u00e8re l&#8217;ic\u00f4ne de l&#8217;auteur, qui semble dire qu&#8217;un jeu n&#8217;est que m\u00e9canismes.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Le sc\u00e9nariste et le dessinateur d\u2019une bande dessin\u00e9e travaillent ensemble, produisent une \u0153uvre commune dont ils sont vraiment tous les deux, ins\u00e9parablement, les auteurs. Les choses ne se passent pas ainsi dans le jeu. M\u00eame dans un jeu tr\u00e8s richement illustr\u00e9 comme Citadelles, comme Dominion ou comme tous les jeux de cartes \u00e0 collectionner, qui peut faire penser \u00e0 une bande dessin\u00e9e, l\u2019illustrateur travaille apr\u00e8s coup, et est en relation avant tout avec l\u2019\u00e9diteur, le concepteur du jeu n\u2019\u00e9tant qu\u2019inform\u00e9, et encore pas toujours. C\u2019est bien un illustrateur et non un co-auteur. Son r\u00f4le est plus ou moins important &#8211; plus dans Citadelles que dans Uno &#8211; mais il est surtout totalement ind\u00e9pendant de celui de l\u2019auteur &#8211; l\u00e0 encore, des jeux comme Dixit ou Kaleidos sont un peu les exceptions qui confirment la r\u00e8gle.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2633\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2633\" data-attachment-id=\"2633\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/dixit\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,499\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"dixit\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Le nom de Marie Cardouat aurait quand m\u00eame m\u00e9rit\u00e9 de figurer sur la boite de Dixit !&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2633\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Le nom de Marie Cardouat aurait quand m\u00eame m\u00e9rit\u00e9 de figurer sur la boite de Dixit !\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2633\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Le nom de Marie Cardouat aurait, lui, m\u00e9rit\u00e9 de figurer sur la boite de Dixit !<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2639\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2639\" data-attachment-id=\"2639\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/kaleidos\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"350,285\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"kaleidos\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Pas de nom sur la boite de Kaleidos, et les r\u00f4les de l&amp;#8217;auteur et des illustrateurs, sans lesquels ce jeu n&amp;#8217;existerait pas, sont d\u00e9taill\u00e9s au dos.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2639\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos-300x244.jpg\" alt=\"Pas de nom sur la boite de Kaleidos, et les r\u00f4les de l'auteur et des illustrateurs, sans lesquels ce jeu n'existerait pas, sont d\u00e9taill\u00e9s au dos.\" width=\"300\" height=\"244\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos-300x244.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2639\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pas de nom sur la boite de Kaleidos, et les r\u00f4les de l&#8217;auteur et des illustrateurs, sans lesquels ce jeu n&#8217;existerait pas, sont d\u00e9taill\u00e9s au dos.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Mettre le nom de l\u2019illustrateur en plus petit, comme sur la boite de Twin Tin Bots, me convient bien s\u00fbr un peu mieux, mais n\u2019est pas tr\u00e8s \u00e9l\u00e9gant. Et puis, comment faire dans les situations bizarres comme celle d\u2019un jeu, qui devrait \u00eatre publi\u00e9 l\u2019an prochain, que j\u2019ai con\u00e7u avec Anja Wrede et qu\u2019elle a illustr\u00e9 \u2013 un jeu d\u2019Anja Wrede et Bruno faidutti illustr\u00e9 par Anja Wrede, \u00e7a fait un peu idiot.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2643\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2643\" data-attachment-id=\"2643\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/zooloretto\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"zooloretto\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Zooloretto, un jeu de Michael Schacht illustr\u00e9 par Michael Schacht, \u00e7a simplifie la question.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2643\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Zooloretto, un jeu de Michael Schacht illustr\u00e9 par Michael Schacht, \u00e7a simplifie la question.\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2643\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zooloretto, un jeu de Michael Schacht illustr\u00e9 par Michael Schacht, \u00e7a simplifie la question.<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2646\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/carole1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2646\" data-attachment-id=\"2646\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/carole-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/carole1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,217\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"carole\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Et ce jeu d&amp;#8217;Anja Wrede est illustr\u00e9 par Anja Wrede, mais l&amp;#8217;\u00e9diteur a quand m\u00eame oubli\u00e9 de la citer sur la boite !&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/carole1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2646\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/carole1-300x130.jpg\" alt=\"Et ce jeu d'Anja Wrede est illustr\u00e9 par Anja Wrede, mais l'\u00e9diteur a quand m\u00eame oubli\u00e9 de la citer sur la boite !\" width=\"300\" height=\"130\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/carole1-300x130.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/carole1.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2646\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Et ce jeu d&#8217;Anja Wrede est illustr\u00e9 par Anja Wrede, mais l&#8217;\u00e9diteur a quand m\u00eame oubli\u00e9 de la citer sur la boite !<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Le plus souvent, malheureusement, le nom de l&#8217;illustrateur n&#8217;est indiqu\u00e9 qu&#8217;en tout petit au dos de la boite, voire \u00e0 la fin du livret de r\u00e8gles, apr\u00e8s les testeurs et relecteurs. Je sais que beaucoup d&#8217;artistes ne s&#8217;en formalisent gu\u00e8re, mais je pense qu&#8217;ils ont tort. Pour autant, associer leur nom et celui du concepteur du jeu comme s&#8217;il s&#8217;agissait d&#8217;un travail de collaboration est excessif. La solution la plus simple me semble donc \u00eatre une belle et grosse signature du dessinateur, bien lisible, dans un coin du dessin de couverture. Son nom est ainsi mis en avant clairement, sans pour autant \u00eatre assimil\u00e9 \u00e0 celui de l\u2019auteur du jeu, qui lui reste typographi\u00e9. Bien s\u00fbr, cela suppose que l\u2019\u00e9diteur ne s\u2019amuse pas \u00e0 effacer la signature d\u2019un coup de photoshop \u2013 c\u2019est arriv\u00e9.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2642\" style=\"width: 222px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2642\" data-attachment-id=\"2642\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/bakong-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"726,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"bakong\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Quelqu&amp;#8217;un \u00e0 Asmod\u00e9e a soigneusement effac\u00e9 la signature de Pier\u00f4 dans le coin du dessin, et c&amp;#8217;est bien dommage car c&amp;#8217;est sans doute celle de ses couvertures que je pr\u00e9f\u00e8re. C&amp;#8217;\u00e9tait aussi un excellent jeu, qui m\u00e9riterait d&amp;#8217;\u00eatre r\u00e9\u00e9dit\u00e9 maintenant qu&amp;#8217;Antoine est plus connu.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2642\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong1-212x300.jpg\" alt=\"Quelqu'un \u00e0 Asmod\u00e9e a soigneusement effac\u00e9 la signature de Pier\u00f4 dans le coin du dessin, et c'est bien dommage car c'est sans doute celle de ses couvertures que je pr\u00e9f\u00e8re. C'\u00e9tait aussi un excellent jeu, qui m\u00e9riterait d'\u00eatre r\u00e9\u00e9dit\u00e9 maintenant qu'Antoine est plus connu.\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong1-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong1.jpg 726w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2642\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Quelqu&#8217;un \u00e0 Asmod\u00e9e a soigneusement effac\u00e9 la signature de Pier\u00f4 dans le coin du dessin, et c&#8217;est bien dommage car c&#8217;est sans doute celle de ses couvertures que je pr\u00e9f\u00e8re. C&#8217;\u00e9tait aussi un excellent jeu, qui m\u00e9riterait d&#8217;\u00eatre r\u00e9\u00e9dit\u00e9 maintenant qu&#8217;Antoine est plus connu.<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2653\" style=\"width: 281px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rampage.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2653\" data-attachment-id=\"2653\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/rampage\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rampage.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"452,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"rampage\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Mais vous pouvez la trouver dans les arbres ou dans les coins sur Lost Temple, Rampage, River Dragons&amp;#8230; &lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rampage.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2653\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rampage-271x300.jpg\" alt=\"Mais vous pouvez la trouver dans les arbres ou dans les coins sur Lost Temple, Rampage, River Dragons... \" width=\"271\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rampage-271x300.jpg 271w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rampage.jpg 452w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 271px) 100vw, 271px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2653\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mais vous pouvez la trouver dans les arbres ou dans les coins sur Lost Temple, Rampage, River Dragons&#8230;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Certains pourront s&#8217;\u00e9tonner que, alors que je peste r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement contre le chauvinisme du petit monde du jeu de soci\u00e9t\u00e9 fran\u00e7ais, j&#8217;ai surtout utilis\u00e9 pour illustrer cet article des jeux fran\u00e7ais. La raison en est que, peut-\u00eatre parce qu&#8217;il y a en France une culture de la bande dessin\u00e9e assez d\u00e9velopp\u00e9e, les \u00e9diteurs fran\u00e7ais semblent \u00eatre les premiers \u00e0 faire des efforts pour mettre en avant les illustrateurs de jeu. J&#8217;esp\u00e8re qu&#8217;ils seront suivis.<\/p>\n<p>Ceci dit, il me semble aussi que respecter le travail des illustrateurs, cela pourrait aussi signifier pour les \u00e9diteurs arr\u00eater de bricoler sous photoshop ces images de boites en fausse 3D plongeante, et pr\u00e9senter les boites de jeu comme elles ont \u00e9t\u00e9 dessin\u00e9es, et comme elles sont faites pour \u00eatre vues, \u00e0 plat.<\/p>\n<p>L\u2019autre question importante est celle du mode de r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration des dessinateurs. Les auteurs per\u00e7oivent aujourd\u2019hui presque toujours des droits d\u2019auteur en pourcentage des ventes. Les illustrateurs et graphistes, en revanche, sont le plus souvent pay\u00e9s au forfait, recevant une somme fixe pour leurs dessins. En r\u00e8gle g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, cette solution qui distingue bien le r\u00f4le de l\u2019auteur du jeu et celui de l\u2019illustrateur me semble la meilleure. Je sais bien que les illustrations contribuent au succ\u00e8s du jeu, et que Citadelles ou Mascarade n\u2019auraient sans doute jamais connu le m\u00eame succ\u00e8s sans les splendides dessins de de Julien Delval, Florence Magnin, Jean-Louis Mourier, Didier Graffet et Jasper Eising pour le premier, de Jeremy Masson pour le deuxi\u00e8me, mais j\u2019ai la faiblesse de penser que le jeu lui-m\u00eame reste l\u2019essentiel. Ainsi, pour le jeu de cartes que j&#8217;ai imagin\u00e9 avec Anja Wrede, et qu&#8217;elle va illustrer, Anja touche une somme fixe pour les illustrations &#8211; et je ne lui ai pas demand\u00e9 combien &#8211; et nous partagerons \u00e0 \u00e9galit\u00e9 les droits d&#8217;auteur. L\u00e0 encore, une exception semble logique dans les cas, tr\u00e8s peu nombreux, o\u00f9 les dessins sont le premier argument de vente du jeu. De tous mes jeux, le seul pour lequel le dessinateur a \u00e9t\u00e9 pay\u00e9 en partie en droits d\u2019auteur est la r\u00e9\u00e9dition par Jeux Descartes de La Vall\u00e9e des Mammouths, et cela n\u2019est pas illogique.<\/p>\n<p>J\u2019esp\u00e8re que mes nombreux amis illustrateurs ne verront pas dans ce billet un signe de m\u00e9pris \u00e0 leur \u00e9gard, o\u00f9 une volont\u00e9 de les l\u00e9ser. J\u2019ai d\u2019autant plus d\u2019estime pour leur travail que je suis absolument incapable de dessiner, et je leur suis reconnaissant d\u2019apporter \u00e0 mes jeux une touche graphique qui me d\u00e9passe. Je suis en outre convaincu que, dans l\u2019immense majorit\u00e9 des cas, ils ne perdent pas, bien au contraire, \u00e0 \u00eatre pay\u00e9s au forfait.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>When game designers, game publishers and game illustrators meet, they often discuss their respective contributions in a published game &#8211; and not only because each one wants to stress his importance. One of the issues is the exact role of the illustrator, the way this role must be acknowledged on the game box, and of course the way it must be paid. It\u2019s about self-esteem and recognition, and it\u2019s also about money. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Some of them resisted for a while, but it is now generally acknowledged by all publishers that the designer\u2019s name must be in big characters on the game box cover, for the same reason it is on a book cover. It\u2019s good for the designer\u2019s self-esteem, and it\u2019s not bad for the publisher because it costs nothing and always helps sell a few more copies. The next question is whether the same rule must apply to the illustrator, which happens more and more often, or in other terms if the illustrator must be considered a co-designer of the game. The underlying real issue is whether a game is really like a comic, for which both scenarist and illustrator usually share responsibility, authorship and royalties.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2626\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/tokaido1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2626\" data-attachment-id=\"2626\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/tokaido-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/tokaido1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"tokaido\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Antoine Bauza and Naiade, authors of Tokaido ?&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/tokaido1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2626\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/tokaido1-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Antoine Bauza and Naiade, authors of Tokaido ?\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/tokaido1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/tokaido1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/tokaido1.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2626\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Antoine Bauza and Naiade, authors of Tokaido ?<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em class=\"size-medium wp-image-2625\">I don\u2019t think it should be so, except with a very few games, like Dixit, in which the graphics and the game systems are intrinsically mixed. Some of my games have had several editions, and I don\u2019t think any gamer will pretend that Diamant and Incan Gold, or that the two versions of Dragon\u2019s Gold, are different games. One can prefer the graphic in one edition or the other, but the game\u2019s theme and rules are basically the same, and that\u2019s what makes the game. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2627\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/diamant\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"481,700\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"diamant\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2627\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant-206x300.jpg\" alt=\"diamant\" width=\"206\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant-206x300.jpg 206w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/diamant.jpg 481w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 206px) 100vw, 206px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2628\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/incan-gold\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,367\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"incan gold\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2628\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold-300x220.jpg\" alt=\"incan gold\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold-300x220.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold-408x300.jpg 408w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/incan-gold.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><em>For the same reason, when Fantasy Flight Games recycles the same pictures of flying dragons and armored knights in three or four games, no one ever suggests that it\u2019s always basically the same game. This means boardgames are not like comics, which cannot be remade with new graphics or new texts. <\/em><\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2631\" style=\"width: 224px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2631\" data-attachment-id=\"2631\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/martian\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"357,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"martian\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Les illustrations de Maximum Throwdown ont co\u00fbt\u00e9 0$ \u00e0 AEG &amp;#8211; elles viennent toutes de Smash-Up.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2631 \" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian-214x300.jpg\" alt=\"Les illustrations de Maximum Throwdown ont co\u00fbt\u00e9 0$ \u00e0 AEG - elles viennent toutes de Smash-Up.\" width=\"214\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/martian.jpg 357w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 214px) 100vw, 214px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2631\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">AEG probably paid little more than $0 for the graphics in Maximum Throwdown, all taken from Smash Up.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>The problem is, because the graphic styles and the usual settings are the same, and also because illustrators are often gamers (I\u2019ve no idea why, but I\u2019ve noticed it), games are often illustrated by comic artists. They draw or paint in their usual style, and from their feeling and their point of view, they don\u2019t do a very different job.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2630\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2630\" data-attachment-id=\"2630\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/rune-age-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"rune age\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m sure I&amp;#8217;ve met this dragon before &amp;#8211; and anyway, the 22 illustrator names cannot fit on the box cover.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2630\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age1-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"I'm sure I've met this dragon before - and anyway, the 22 illustrator names cannot fit on the box cover.\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/rune-age1.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2630\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve met this dragon before &#8211; and anyway, the 22 illustrator names cannot fit on the box cover.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>The first real issue is how the illustrator&#8217;s name should be acknowledged on the game box and in the rules, and it obviously depends on the game. I really like Giulia Ghigini&#8217;s work, but I would have been shocked to see her name written as big as Nathalie&#8217;s and mine on the game box, since her contribution to the published game was only the box cover and the two card backs &#8211; even when the three illustrations are really great.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/302209_10151252140974884_1122450440_n-176x300.jpg\" alt=\"Speed Dating\" width=\"176\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX-159x300.jpg\" alt=\"MASCARADE_PACKSHOT_BOX\" width=\"143\" height=\"270\" \/><\/a><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>On the other hand, I would not have been shocked to see Jeremy Masson&#8217;s name more prominently displayed on the Mascarade box, or Naiade&#8217;s one on Isla Dorada.\u00a0 Nonetheless, writing the illustrator&#8217;s name beside the authors&#8217; one with the same font and size, as on Tokaido or Augustus, even with an icon to specify who made what, looks wrong to me because it suggests a collaborative work, which is not the case.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2652\" style=\"width: 304px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/augustus.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2652\" data-attachment-id=\"2652\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/augustus\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/augustus.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1389,1417\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"augustus\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Icons state who designed the game and who made the graphics &amp;#8211; but i don&amp;#8217;t like the designer icon, which suggests that the game is only mechanisms.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/augustus-1003x1024.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2652\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/augustus-294x300.jpg\" alt=\"Icons state who designed the game and who made the graphics - but i don't like the designer icon, which suggests that the game is only mechanisms.\" width=\"294\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/augustus-294x300.jpg 294w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/augustus-1003x1024.jpg 1003w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/augustus.jpg 1389w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 294px) 100vw, 294px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2652\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Icons state who designed the game and who made the graphics &#8211; but i don&#8217;t like the designer icon, which suggests that the game is only mechanisms.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>When making a comic, scenarist and illustrator work together and both are authors of the same indivisible work.\u00a0 Games are different. Even for a gorgeously illustrated game, like Citadels, like Dominion or like collectable card games, which look like comics, things don&#8217;t happen that way. The illustrator&#8217;s work starts when the designer&#8217;s one is finished. He deals mostly when the publisher, and quite often isn&#8217;t even in contact with the game designer. To put it bluntly, the illustrator is not a codesigner. His role is obviously more important for Citadels than for Uno, but it always comes after the design process, with the obvious exception of games like Dixit or Kaleidos.\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2634\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2634\" data-attachment-id=\"2634\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/dixit-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,499\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"dixit\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;I was really surprised when I found out that Marie Cardouat&amp;#8217;s name is not on the box cover.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2634\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit1-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"I was really surprised when I found out that Marie Cardouat's name is not on the box cover.\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dixit1.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2634\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I was really surprised when I found out that Marie Cardouat&#8217;s name is not on the box cover.<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2640\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2640\" data-attachment-id=\"2640\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/kaleidos-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"350,285\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"kaleidos\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#8217;s no name on the Kaleidos box, but the roles of designer and the illustrators, without whom such a game would not exist, are detailed on the back.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2640\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos1-300x244.jpg\" alt=\"There's no name on the Kaleidos box, but the roles of designer and the illustrators, without whom such a game would not exist, are detailed on the back.\" width=\"300\" height=\"244\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos1-300x244.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/kaleidos1.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2640\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">There&#8217;s no name on the Kaleidos box, but the roles of designer and the illustrators, without whom such a game would not exist, are detailed on the back.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>It&#8217;s also possible to write the illustrator&#8217;s name in smaller characters, like on the Twin Tin Bots box, but it&#8217;s not really fair and elegant. And how to deal with bizarre situations, like a game which ought to be published next &#8211; a game I&#8217;ve designed together with Anja Wrede and which will also be illustrated by Anja &#8211; a game by Anja Wrede and bruno Faidutti illustrated by Anja Wrede, it sounds just stupid ! <\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2644\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2644\" data-attachment-id=\"2644\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/zooloretto-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"zooloretto\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Like most games by Michael Schacht, Zooloretto is also illustrated by Michael Schacht &amp;#8211; it makes things simpler.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2644\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto1-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Like most games by Michael Schacht, Zooloretto is also illustrated by Michael Schacht - it makes things simpler.\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/zooloretto1.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2644\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Like most games by Michael Schacht, Zooloretto is also illustrated by Michael Schacht &#8211; it makes things simpler.<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2656\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/twiga.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2656\" data-attachment-id=\"2656\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/twiga\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/twiga.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"352,221\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Twiga\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Twiga, a game by Claudia Hartmann and Anja Wrede with graphics by Anja Wrede&amp;#8230; but not a single name on the box.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/twiga.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2656\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/twiga-300x188.jpg\" alt=\"Twiga, a game by Claudia Hartmann and Anja Wrede with graphics by Anja Wrede... but not a single name on the box.\" width=\"300\" height=\"188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/twiga-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/twiga.jpg 352w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2656\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Twiga, a game by Claudia Hartmann and Anja Wrede with graphics by Anja Wrede&#8230; but not a single name on the box.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em><em>Most times, the illustrator&#8217;s name is simply writtent in a small font type at the back of the box, or even at the end of the rules, together with playtesters and translatorsI. I know many artists who don&#8217;t mind. I think they are wrong and deserve more exposure, but I also think it would be an error to associate their name with designer&#8217;s one as if the game were a collaborative work. <\/em>The best and simplest solution is probably is probably to have a large and clear signature by the illustrator in a corner of the cover picture. This clearly emphasizes his role without confusing him with the author, who is still typographied. Of course, this works only if the publisher doesn\u2019t photoshop the signature away\u2026 It happens.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2641\" style=\"width: 222px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2641\" data-attachment-id=\"2641\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/bakong\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"726,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"bakong\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Someone at Asmod\u00e9e removed Piero&amp;#8217;s signature from the cover picture &amp;#8211; and it&amp;#8217;s a shame because it&amp;#8217;s my favorite cover of his. A really good game, by the way, which wpuld be worth reprinting now that Antoine is a star..&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2641\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong-212x300.jpg\" alt=\"Someone at Asmod\u00e9e removed Piero's signature from the cover picture - and it's a shame because it's my favorite cover of his. A really good game, by the way, which wpuld be worth reprinting now that Antoine is a star..\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/bakong.jpg 726w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2641\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Someone at Asmod\u00e9e removed Piero&#8217;s signature from the cover picture &#8211; and it&#8217;s a shame because it&#8217;s my favorite cover of his. A really good game, by the way, which wpuld be worth reprinting now that Antoine is a star..<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2649\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/riverdragons1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2649\" data-attachment-id=\"2649\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2013\/12\/05\/editeurs-auteurs-et-pour-une-fois-illustrateurs-publishers-designers-and-for-once-illustrators\/riverdragons-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/riverdragons1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1024,701\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"River Dragons\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;But you can find it in Lost Temple, Rampage, River Dragons, and many other ones.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/riverdragons1.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2649\" src=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/riverdragons1-300x205.jpg\" alt=\"But you can find it in Lost Temple, Rampage, River Dragons, and many other ones.\" width=\"300\" height=\"205\" srcset=\"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/riverdragons1-300x205.jpg 300w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/riverdragons1-438x300.jpg 438w, https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/riverdragons1.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2649\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">But you can find it in Lost Temple, Rampage, River Dragons, and many other ones.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>Some might wonder why, when I regularly complain of the chauvinism of the French boardgaming world, most of the examples I have used so far come from French publisher. the reason is that, may be because there is a strong French comics culture, they seem to be the first ones to try to emphasize the role of the illustrator and to put his name forward. I hope German, US and all other ones will follow.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Another way to show their respect for the illustrator&#8217;s work could be, for publishers to stop using photoshop to make fake 3D pictures of the game box, and instead post on the gaming websites the game cover as it was drawn, and as it is intended to be seen, as a flat picture.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The other related issue is how the illustrator ought to be paid. Nowadays, the usual rule is that the author gets royalties for every game sold, while the illustrator is paid a flat fee regardless of sales. As an author, I think this rule, which makes a clear distinction between the works of game designer is illustrator, is a good one. Of course, I know that the graphics help the sales, that Citadels would or Mascarade would not sell as they do if it were not for the illustrations by Julien Delval, Florence Magnin, Jean-Louis Mourier, Didier Graffet and Jasper Eising for the former, Jeremy Masson for the latter, but I still think that the game itself matters more. For the card game I&#8217;ve designed with Anja Wrede, she will get a flat fee for the graphics &#8211; and I won&#8217;t ask her how much &#8211; and we will share equally the royalties. Once more, there can be a few exceptions when graphics are the main selling point, but this doesn\u2019t happen often &#8211; The only game of mine for which the illustrator was partly paid in royalties was the Descartes reprint of Valley of the Mammoths, and it makes sense.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I hope my illustrator friends won\u2019t find me haughty or conspicuous, and won\u2019t think I\u2019m trying to wrong them. Being a very bad cartoonist, I regard their work with esteem and I\u2019m glad they can add to my games a graphic touch way beyond my means. Furthermore, I know for a fact that, in the vast majority of cases, they don\u2019t lose anything with being paid a flat rate.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L&#8217;un des th\u00e8mes fr\u00e9quemment d\u00e9battus ces derniers temps quand des auteurs, des \u00e9diteurs et parfois des illustrateurs de jeux se rencontrent est celui du r\u00f4le exact de l&#8217;illustrateur, et de la mani\u00e8re dont il doit \u00eatre reconnu (et r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9). 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