{"id":15730,"date":"2023-06-06T13:21:25","date_gmt":"2023-06-06T13:21:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/?p=15730"},"modified":"2023-06-25T05:37:07","modified_gmt":"2023-06-25T05:37:07","slug":"quelques-mots-sur-la-version-francaise-de-the-artemis-odyssey-about-the-french-version-of-the-artemis-odyssey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2023\/06\/06\/quelques-mots-sur-la-version-francaise-de-the-artemis-odyssey-about-the-french-version-of-the-artemis-odyssey\/","title":{"rendered":"Quelques mots sur la version fran\u00e7aise de The Artemis Odyssey.
About the French version of The Artemis Odyssey<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Grrrre games venant d\u2019annoncer une version fran\u00e7aise de The Artemis Odyssey<\/a><\/em>, je voudrais encourager les joueurs \u00e0 attendre plut\u00f4t la version originale en anglais, qui devrait \u00eatre publi\u00e9e aux \u00c9tats-Unis par the Great Gamers Guild, plus ou moins \u00e0 la m\u00eame date.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Artemis Odyssey<\/em> reprend largement les m\u00e9canismes de Ad Astra, un jeu de gestion et d\u2019expansion con\u00e7u il y a longtemps d\u00e9j\u00e0 avec mon ami Serge Laget. Nous avions sign\u00e9 il y a cinq ou six and d\u00e9j\u00e0 un contrat pour cette nouvelle version avec un \u00e9diteur am\u00e9ricain. Tout s\u2019est parfaitement bien pass\u00e9 avec The Great Gamers Guild, qui a d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 le jeu en \u00e9troite collaboration avec Serge et moi. Les r\u00e8gles du jeu publi\u00e9 aux \u00c9tats-Unis sont, \u00e0 quelques corrections mineures pr\u00e8s, celle que j\u2019ai r\u00e9dig\u00e9es.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

J\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 un peu surpris d\u2019apprendre que Grrrre games, un \u00e9diteur que j\u2019avais bloqu\u00e9 sur les r\u00e9seaux sociaux suite \u00e0 des propos d\u2019assez mauvais go\u00fbt, allait s\u2019occuper de la \u00ab localisation \u00bb de ce jeu. Faisant contre mauvaise fortune bon c\u0153ur, j\u2019ai aussit\u00f4t, comme je le fais habituellement, traduit les r\u00e8gles en fran\u00e7ais. Apr\u00e8s que Serge avait valid\u00e9 ma traduction, je l\u2019ai transmise \u00e0 Grrrre games. J\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s surpris de recevoir une r\u00e9ponse dans laquelle Florian Grenier, de Grrrre games, annon\u00e7ait qu\u2019il ne souhaitait pas utiliser cette traduction et m\u2019envoyait la sienne, visiblement faite \u00e0 la hache et \u00e0 la va-vite. On y trouvait tout ce qui manquait \u00e0 la mienne, mot \u00e0 mot, anglicismes, lourdeurs, fautes de grammaire et de syntaxe, redondances, adverbes et m\u00eame phrases inutiles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

J\u2019ai tent\u00e9 de raisonner M. Grenier, et nous avons m\u00eame eu une br\u00e8ve conversation t\u00e9l\u00e9phonique. Je lui ai demand\u00e9, s\u2019il ne voulait pas utiliser ma traduction des r\u00e8gles, de retirer au moins mon nom des r\u00e8gles fran\u00e7aises, ce qu\u2019il a \u00e9galement refus\u00e9. J\u2019ai raccroch\u00e9 lorsqu\u2019il m\u2019a expliqu\u00e9 que son contrat n\u2019\u00e9tant pas avec les auteurs mais avec l\u2019\u00e9diteur am\u00e9ricain, je n\u2019\u00e9tais pas concern\u00e9 et il pouvait faire ce qu\u2019il voulait.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Serge, qui avait de meilleures relations avec M. Grenier, pensait encore pouvoir arranger les choses. Il a essay\u00e9 quelques temps, puis sa sant\u00e9 a commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 se d\u00e9grader et il n\u2019a plus vraiment pu s\u2019en occuper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je n\u2019ai plus aucune relation avec M. Grenier, et ne souhaite pas en avoir. J\u2019imagine que les r\u00e8gles de la version fran\u00e7aise de The Artemis Odyssey ont \u00e9t\u00e9 quelque peu relues et corrig\u00e9es depuis la version ridicule et incompr\u00e9hensible qu\u2019il m\u2019avait envoy\u00e9e, mais ne les ayant pas vues, je ne peux en \u00eatre certain. Quand bien m\u00eame elles seraient claires et en bon fran\u00e7ais, il n\u2019est pas normal que je n\u2019aie pas pu r\u00e9diger la version fran\u00e7aise d\u2019un texte dont j\u2019avais assez largement \u00e9crit l\u2019original anglais. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je traiterai donc l\u2019\u00e9dition fran\u00e7aise de The Artemis Odyssey<\/em> comme M. Grenier traite les auteurs de jeux, surtout lorsqu\u2019ils sont vieux, par le m\u00e9pris. Je ne r\u00e9pondrai pas aux \u00e9ventuelles questions de r\u00e8gles la concernant, je ne d\u00e9dicacerai pas les bo\u00eetes fran\u00e7aises, et j\u2019invite les joueurs \u00e0 se procurer plut\u00f4t l\u2019\u00e9dition am\u00e9ricaine. En cas de besoin, voici la traduction des r\u00e8gles et des cartes<\/a> que j’avais r\u00e9alis\u00e9e et dont l’\u00e9diteur n’a pas voulu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Grrrre games has just announced that they will soon publish a French version of <\/em>The Artemis Odyssey.<\/em><\/a> I urge French speaking players to rather get the US edition, which ought to be published more or less at the same time in the US by The Great Gamers Guild.  <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Artemis Odyssey is based on an older expansion and development game designed with my late friend Serge Laget. Five or six years ago, we had signed a contract for this new edition with an American publisher, The Great Gamers Guild. They did a great job developing the game in collaboration with Serge and me. The rules in the English language edition are, with some minor corrections, the ones I had written.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I was surprised to learn that Grrrre Games, a publisher I had blocked on social networks after a few posts of really bad taste, was in charge of the French language localization. I nevertheless decided to make the best of it and, as I always do, I translated the rules in French. After Serge had proofread my rules, I sent it to Grrrre games. I was extremely surprised by the answer by Florian Grenier, the boss of Grrrre games. He wrote that he didn\u2019t plan to use my translation, and was sending another one, obviously hastily written. His translation had all that mine was missing \u2013 anglicisms, ponderousness, grammar and syntax errors, redundancies and pointless adverbs.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I tried to reason with Mr Grenier, and we even had a short phone conversation. I hung up when he explained that his contract was not with the designers but with the US publisher, and that he therefore could do as he wished.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Serge, having better relations with Mr Grenier, still hoped to fix things. He tried for a while, but then his health started to deteriorate and he gave up.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I have no more relations with Mr Grenier, and I don\u2019t want to. I guess the rules in the French version of The Artemis Odyssey have been proofread and improved since the ridiculous and catastrophic version I have read. Even if they are now well written, it is no correct that I have not been allowed to write the French version of an English text I had, for the most part, written.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I will therefore deal with the French edition of <\/em>The Artemis Odyssey as Mr Grenier deals with game designers, especially old ones \u2013 I will from now on ignore it. I won\u2019t answer rules questions about it, I won\u2019t sign copies of the game in French, and I urge players to rather get the English language version.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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