{"id":1021,"date":"2004-11-05T15:09:46","date_gmt":"2004-11-05T15:09:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/?p=1021"},"modified":"2017-01-24T21:34:32","modified_gmt":"2017-01-24T21:34:32","slug":"jeux-educatifs-educational-games","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/faidutti.com\/blog\/blog\/2004\/11\/05\/jeux-educatifs-educational-games\/","title":{"rendered":"Jeux \u00e9ducatifs  <br><i> Educational Games<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>J&#8217;ai deux casquettes, celles de cr\u00e9ateur de jeu et de professeur de lyc\u00e9e, et cela me vaut r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement des sollicitations pour travailler sur des &#8220;jeux \u00e9ducatifs&#8221; ou pour parler sur le caract\u00e8re \u00e9ducatif du jeu. J&#8217;ai toujours d\u00e9clin\u00e9 la premi\u00e8re offre, et s&#8217;il m&#8217;arrive parfois d&#8217;accepter la seconde, c&#8217;est pour tenir des propos qui ne sont pas ceux attendus d&#8217;un enseignant cr\u00e9ateur de jeu, et qui vont \u00e0 l&#8217;encontre de la mode du &#8220;ludo-\u00e9ducatif&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Je tiens en effet le jeu \u00e9ducatif pour un oxymore, comme le montre d&#8217;ailleurs fort bien le fait que les meilleurs jeux ne pr\u00e9tendent rien de plus qu&#8217;\u00eatre des jeux, et que les jeux qui se veulent \u00e9ducatifs sont g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement d&#8217;un int\u00e9r\u00eat ludique extr\u00e8mement limit\u00e9. La volont\u00e9 de faire des jeux \u00e9ducatifs part de l&#8217;hypoth\u00e8se &#8211; en partie discutable, d&#8217;ailleurs &#8211; que les djeuns n&#8217;aiment pas apprendre, mais qu&#8217;ils aiment tous jouer. On va donc les faire apprendre en leur faisant croire qu&#8217;ils jouent. C&#8217;est oublier d&#8217;une part que personne, pas m\u00eame un djeuns, n&#8217;appr\u00e9cie d&#8217;\u00eatre pris pour un con, et d&#8217;autre part que gratuit\u00e9 et vanit\u00e9 sont des composantes essentielles du jeu. Si l&#8217;on joue dans un but autre que se faire plaisir en s&#8217;immergeant dans le jeu, on ne joue plus vraiment, et le plaisir a t\u00f4t fait de dispara\u00eetre. Si l&#8217;on croit apprendre sans travailler, on se fait de confortables illusions.<\/p>\n<p>Alors, bien s\u00fbr, on entra\u00eene sa m\u00e9moire en jouant au memory, et l&#8217;on apprend les probabilit\u00e9s en jouant au poker. Il reste que si l&#8217;on fait un memory pour entra\u00eener sa m\u00e9moire, ce n&#8217;est plus un jeu, et qu&#8217;apprendre les probabilit\u00e9s avant de se mettre au poker semble plus judicieux que l&#8217;inverse. Alors de gr\u00e2ce, messieurs les p\u00e9dagogues, laissez les joueurs jouer avec des jeux pour jouer, et laisser les apprenants apprendre pour apprendre.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>I wear two hats, those of game author and high school teacher, and I am therefore often requested to design &#8220;educational games&#8221; or to talk about the educational use of games. I&#8217;ve always turned down the first proposal, and if I sometimes accept the second one, I usually don&#8217;t tell what is expected from a teacher &#8211; game author.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I think that &#8220;educational game&#8221; is an oxymoron &#8211; the best proof being that the best games don&#8217;t pretend to be anything else than games, and that the so-called educational game are usually not very exciting as games. The demand for educational games is due to the ideas, which can both be discussed, that youth don&#8217;t like to learn, but that they all like to play games. So we&#8217;ll make them learn while thinking they are only gaming. This cannot work, because youth, no more than you and me, don&#8217;t like to be taken for fools, and because futility and uselessness are an essential characteristic of a game. If you don&#8217;t play a game just for the sake of gaming, just for fun, you don&#8217;t play at all, and there&#8217;s no fun more. If you think you can learn without working, you&#8217;re just fooled &#8211; and probably fooled by the ones who are actually working.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Of course, you improve your memory with playing memory, and you learn probabilities when playing poker. On the other hand, if you play memory just to improve your memory, it&#8217;s no more a game, and it would probably be more clever to learn some probabilities before starting to play poker.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>J&#8217;ai deux casquettes, celles de cr\u00e9ateur de jeu et de professeur de lyc\u00e9e, et cela me vaut r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement des sollicitations pour travailler sur des &#8220;jeux \u00e9ducatifs&#8221; ou pour parler sur le caract\u00e8re \u00e9ducatif du jeu. 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